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Thursday Jan 14, 2010

Drop in emigration sellers positive for SA

One of the most positive aspects of the SA property market right now is the decline in the number of homeowners planning to emigrate.

This phenomenon, identified in research by FNB, arguably accounts to some extent for the current upturn in the fortunes of the market says Colleen Gray, MD of CENTURY 21 South Africa, in that there are fewer desperate sellers.

"And on the other hand, there is evidence to support an increase in demand from SA expats returning home in the wake of the global financial crisis and widespread job losses, believing that their prospects of success here will be aided by familiarity with the business scene, family networks and other support mechanisms."

She says it would obviously be wrong to draw too many assumptions about an improvement in consumer confidence from the figures currently available - or to believe that a decline in the number of emigrants necessarily reflects an improvement in all the conditions that previously stimulated emigration, notably crime/ corruption, bureaucracy and infrastructure deterioration.

"But whatever the reasons, the FNB figures make interesting reading. They show that in Johannesburg, for example, emigration as a reason for selling a property has dropped from 21% of sellers to just 7% over the past year and that in Durban the decline has been even bigger, from 29% of sellers to just 8%."

In Cape Town the percentage of emigration-related sales has dropped from 14% to 4%, in Port Elizabeth it has fallen from 14% to 7% and in Pretoria it is decline from 21% to only 2%.

"Which is all a far cry from the survey of the SA emigration/ immigration picture carried out by global market research group Synovate in June last year, which showed that there had been no significant decline in the percentage of South Africans definitely planning on emigrating or seriously considering it since 2008, when 20% of the population was inclined to leave the country," says Gray.

"It is quite possible that many would-be emigrants have just put their plans on hold until the world economic situation improves further and they feel they can secure new jobs and stable futures in other parts of the world. But as the situation stands now, our government has a wonderful opportunity to address the main emigration 'push factors' and try to convince a significant number of them to change their minds and stay in SA.

"And in the meanwhile the country is already benefiting from the retention of skills resident in the younger age groups which usually account for the biggest number of emigrants, as well as the increased stability in our property market. This could be just the breathing space we need to turn the whole emigration trend around."

Comments:

been there done that -- for more than a decade; and the grass aint greener on the other side, just far from home!

Posted by anon on January 14, 2010 at 02:07 PM SAST Report this Comment

Haha! the grass is only greener in the UK because they use more manure! Coming home soon!

Posted by Rick on January 14, 2010 at 03:07 PM SAST Report this Comment

It is extremely difficult to be accepted for residency right now - Australia, New Zealand and Canada have all cut their quotas and are only accepting highly qualified people in specific areas like medicine and IT, and only those with experience. THAT is why emigration has dried up. The 7% leaving are the top people, not just ordinary middle management and newly graduated students. The only people staying behind are people who can't get out or are too afraid they can't compete in a world-class job environment. (And lets be honest, with our education system they can't).

Posted by April on January 14, 2010 at 04:43 PM SAST Report this Comment

I have lived in New Zealand for 30yrs and I am coming back to SA. NZ is not the place it was 30yrs ago,totally different country now with all sorts of internal problems and crime has gone through the roof. The weather is terrible in winter and Britain is even worse. Nothing wrong with SA , people need to stop being so paranoid about crime and enjoy life.

Posted by 60.234.151.199 on January 14, 2010 at 10:02 PM SAST Report this Comment

@IP, Think long and hard about going back, if NZ has changed in 30 years do you have any idea how much SA has changed? If NZ crime has 'increased' and it's still one of the safest countries in the world have you really thought about what it means if SA is one of the most dangerous. Nostalgia is a very dangerous thing. I'm in Aus, and it's no a Utopia, anyone that thinks it will be is being unrealistic, but, things are better here. As for visas April is spot on. Australia has suspended all visas except for critical skills until 2012. As a more relevant stat Australian immigration released 2009 stats, South Africa is the 4th most common country after the UK, India and China. Compared to the populations of those countries, that's huge.

Posted by Craig on January 14, 2010 at 10:44 PM SAST Report this Comment

Emigration has become more difficult and SA should stop fooling themselves about people not wanting to leave any more, it more a case of some people just can't anymore, even if they wanted too. If crime in NZ went through the roof, I hate to think what you call crime in SA! Someone is in for one hell of a surprise, brace yourself! Some people I know went back to SA by force and not by choice. Just wait for circumstances/economy to change and they'd be going again at which point I will say: I told you so!

Posted by biker on January 15, 2010 at 01:05 AM SAST Report this Comment

You have to be joking, all the people who say they are going back! Never looked back!

Posted by jen on January 15, 2010 at 09:35 AM SAST Report this Comment

Don't kid yourselves. That emmigration wave was those that had papers / jobs in place. Many fellow accountants in the 30-40 age group I know are sorting out Aus papers. This is now harder due to the recession, but when that eases there will be another wave. Wonderful lifestyle in SA if you have the disposable income to buy the services the gov increasingly can no longer provide, health, education, security, transport ....

Posted by Craig on January 15, 2010 at 09:37 AM SAST Report this Comment

Cant wait to get back to SA! There are problems everywhere, at least in South Africa I can tackle the problems with a home advantage :)

Posted by Anon on January 15, 2010 at 11:05 PM SAST Report this Comment

No going back! Left SA, went back only to find its gone from bad to worse. Decided to leave again, to live in fear is not living! Happy in Oz.

Posted by Happy on January 16, 2010 at 12:57 AM SAST Report this Comment

left for America a few years ago. Best decision i ever made. Have exactly what i had in Joburg, a gardener (from mexico), a maid 5 days a week (from Brazil), tennis and rugby at the local club....and no crime (in SA i was robbed/carjacked outside of Wanderers and robbed at gun point at the Rosebank clinic).. Why go back to SA? what is it in SA that my family does not have in America?

Posted by Saxonwold on January 16, 2010 at 05:26 AM SAST Report this Comment

And no doubt when everyone's gone and there's no-one left here to emigrate the last estate agent will be crowing that the emigration figure has fallen.

Posted by Pistov on January 16, 2010 at 12:24 PM SAST Report this Comment

I lived in London for 10 years and returned to SA, Durban, 3 years ago. I love this country and find it dis-heartening when ex pats shout the odds from a far. We are all hoping the world cup is a great success and will be sustainable in that people will return to this beautiful country. The crime and the corruption is bad, and the police are not pro-active. But the life style is still way better than London.

Posted by glen on January 16, 2010 at 04:30 PM SAST Report this Comment

As far as I am aware Australia has not cut immigration numbers/quotas and is still set for high levels. The drop in temporary (unskilled) migration visas are due to stricter workplace rules/contracts in place since the election of the Labour government in 2007. The only traditional destination for Saffers that has cut it's intake/increased it's requirements is the UK. Naturally emigration will start to fall eventually, those who had the inclination to leave has likely done so at this point. Ultimately to each his/her own, if life on foreign shores makes you happy, good for you, just don't judge those who do not share your views and vice versa.

Posted by Csmith on January 16, 2010 at 07:22 PM SAST Report this Comment

From what I have seen over the years ,people who leave a country always try and justify why they have left,this is done by pointing out all the bad points of that country that they can think of and telling everyone else about them.You will only realise how good your move has been after at least 5 yrs as this is the honeymoon period. Another thing I notice about South Africans is they live way beyond their means and it catches up with them in the end. This is a big reason why a lot of them leave at a relatively older age of 40+. They often have little by way of assets and hope the welfare states of these other countries will look after them. Good luck to them because they will find living on an Aussie/NZ or British pension pretty painful, thats if they qualify.

Posted by Robnf on January 17, 2010 at 10:16 PM SAST Report this Comment

I would love to come home to SA and be close to my family and friends. I also have to be realistic. My family and their safety is my number one concern and no matter how many other good points SA has to offer this trumps them all. I have to know they safe, walking to school or driving to work. I truly love SA but I am scared. People in SA are so hardened by the crime. You hear things like "O!, they where so lucky they got robbed, raped and shot, but no-one died!!" This is crazy. The very thought of getting robbed send my pulse racing. I know it happens here, but I truly have not seen it. (only heard a friends house got robbed - this was about 6 years ago, and they caught the guy 2 days later) The rest you do hear on the news but it is other people that you don't know. The fact that is still make news is amazing. If you tell me the crime in SA is gone, I will race home so fast you won't believe it! I love SA but I love my family more.

Posted by saffa on January 17, 2010 at 11:30 PM SAST Report this Comment

Quite an interesting article, but I kinda doubt the meaning of the statistics. The first question would be how accurate this survey is. I'm one of those currently selling my property in SA, and nowhere did I fill in any survey/questionaire about WHY I'm selling. This feels the same as the so-called emigration statistics that the SA government is holding up (has anyone EVER had to fill in a "why am I getting on a plane to [pick functioning western country]" form at the airport?). Just judging by the amount of saffers I work with in NZ and the amount of people I met this Christmas who are desperately trying to leave, I wouldn't give these stats too much credence... The greener grass argument... well, that is usually raised by those who've only lived in SA - ya know - brainwashed by the cooking frog syndrome...

Posted by David on January 17, 2010 at 11:37 PM SAST Report this Comment

It always interests me that ex-pats who leave South Africa spend time on South African websites defending their reasons why they moved. I have no problem with anyone moving on from SA. Go for it. You know I may do it to experience life somewhere else. HOWEVER I will go proudly South African. Possibly its time for the Australians, US and other citizens of South African decent to forget about South Africa and move on!! Get a life man...Find forums on your local websites and contribute there!!

Posted by Charles on January 18, 2010 at 09:27 AM SAST Report this Comment

Those that want to leave, please leave and don't come back. You are affecting the house prices and I want to buy a bigger house at a reduced price.

Posted by Danny on January 18, 2010 at 09:48 AM SAST Report this Comment

I agree with the sentiments expressed by Charles. I really cannot understand why people who have clearly given up on South Africa, and created a good life for themselves elsewhere, still continue to flock to Websites positive about SA. Why are they prepared to spend their precious leisure time correcting opinions about SA, when they could be having so much fun where they now live? I would really suggest that those intent on bringing SA down at every turn take a good look inside themselves to determine why they feel the need to do what they do. What I can never understand is that so many people that have left SA still have family and friends here. Would it not be in the best interests of those left behind to ensure that the country does indeed flourish and succeed?

Posted by Anthony on February 04, 2010 at 10:14 AM SAST Report this Comment

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